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Mastering Construction Budgets and Logistics Hurdles

with Matt Sevinsky from M.L. Bell Construction, LLC


In this conversation, Kenny, Carter, and Matt discuss the challenges and frustrations in the engineering and design industry, particularly in the light commercial market. We touch on unrealistic client expectations, the importance of collaboration between engineers and contractors, the need for design-assist or design-build approaches, and the significance of understanding project budgets and proformas. They also emphasize the importance of clear communication, trust, and the ability to adapt and make informed decisions throughout the design and construction process.

We cover other topics related to the construction industry, including estimating costs, design considerations, coordination of trades, and the role of the general contractor (GC). Kenny emphasized the importance of experience and relationships in the industry and the need for transparency and clear communication. Matt discussed logistics challenges, such as getting materials on site and coordinating crane operations. Matt also highlighted the role of the GC in making deals happen and ensuring the success of a project.

Kenny expressed his concerns about industry practices, such as pay-when-paid clauses and unrealistic contingencies, and called for improvements in the industry.


engineering, design, light commercial market, client expectations, collaboration, design assist, design-build, project budgets, proforma, communication, trust, construction industry, estimating costs, design considerations, coordination of trades, general contractor, logistics, industry practices


  • Unrealistic client expectations and a lack of understanding of the engineering and design process can lead to frustration and conflicts in the industry.

  • Collaboration between engineers and contractors is crucial in ensuring successful project outcomes.

  • Design assist or design build approaches are often more effective in the light commercial market, allowing for better coordination and problem-solving.

  • Understanding project budgets and proformas is essential for making informed decisions and avoiding costly mistakes.

  • Clear communication, trust, and adaptability are critical factors in navigating the engineering and design industry challenges. Experience and relationships are crucial in the construction industry.

  • Transparency and clear communication are essential for successful projects.

  • Logistics can be challenging, such as getting materials on site and coordinating crane operations.

  • The general contractor is critical in making deals happen and ensuring project success.

  • Industry practices, such as pay-when-paid clauses and unrealistic contingencies, need improvement.

Sound Bites

"If you're in the light commercial market, there is almost an annoyance that any dollars are having to be paid on an engineer." - Kenneth Shultz

"Estimation itself is an art and a design." - Matt Sevinsky

"Pay-when-paid is insane. No bank would ever lend money under those terms." - Kenneth Shultz

"The GC's role is to make the deal happen." - Matt Sevinsky


00:00 Introduction and Problem Statement
03:01 Navigating Unrealistic Client Expectations
09:05 The Importance of Collaboration in Engineering and Design
14:18 The Benefits of Design Assist and Design Build Approaches
25:30 The Role of Clear Communication and Trust in the Industry
39:45 The Importance of Experience and Relationships
52:22 Transparency and Clear Communication
01:03:33 Challenges of Logistics in Construction
01:08:04 The Role of the General Contractor
01:14:07 Improving Industry Practices

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